"We used to think that if we knew one, we knew two, because one and one are two. We are finding that we must learn a great deal more about ‘and’ ”
This concept touches on the evolving complexity in how we approach fundamental truths. Traditionally, mathematical simplicity, like the equation 1 + 1 = 2, has represented the certainty of logic. However, as we delve deeper into more complex systems—whether it's artificial intelligence, quantum physics, or human cognition—we recognise that the interactions between elements (the "and") are often more nuanced than simple addition. The relationships, interdependencies, and emergent properties of these systems challenge us to go beyond the simple arithmetic of two distinct objects to understand their connections and contexts, and behaviours in concert.
In modern applications of AI, "and" can represent layers of collaboration between multiple models, inputs, or systems, each interacting in nuanced ways, driving results far beyond simple linear expectations. We start to defy classical understanding of "one and one," existing in superpositions or entangled states, making the simplistic notion of addition inadequate.
Understanding the “and” means understanding how elements interact, depend on, and shape one another in ways that lead to outcomes far more complex than their individual parts
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NICK ATKIN - CHIEF PRODUCT OFFICER
Nick is a seasoned technology executive with over 30 years of experience, specialising in voice AI, conversation capture, and speech analytics. He has led product innovation and engineering teams across global enterprises and startups, delivering solutions that drive operational efficiency and enhance customer interactions.
As the founder of calld.ai, Nick oversees product and technology strategy, leveraging his deep expertise to build AI-driven voice solutions that scale businesses and revolutionise communication.
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RUSSELL EVANS - NON EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
Russell is a technology executive with 30+ years experience in leading and scaling software & content businesses to achieve success on the global stage.
Russell has worked for a variety of large tech firms including Xerox, Vodafone, IBM and Wolters Kluwer. At the other end of the scale, he has also worked with a number of start-ups.
Most recently, Russell was CRO at Dubber (ASX:DUB) where he grew revenue to $38m ARR before exiting the business in July.
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DAVID RALSTON - CHIEF REVENUE OFFICER
David Ralston is a seasoned sales and marketing executive with over 30 years of experience in transforming complex business challenges into growth-oriented, technology-driven strategies. His expertise has centred on emerging technologies consistently aligning technology initiatives with overarching business objectives.
David has dedicated much of his career to building and leading high-performance channel sales teams, enhancing partner networks, and expanding global customer reach. His leadership style prioritises innovation, collaboration, and measurable results, driving digital transformation.
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JULIA DE SALVO - HEAD OF OPERATIONS
Julia De Salvo is a strategic Operations Leader with over 15 years of experience driving organisational excellence across startups and established enterprises. Recently heading Operations at Closed AI, she brings extensive expertise in scaling operations, workforce planning, and strategic leadership. Julia specialises in navigating complex, multi-functional teams while maintaining a strong focus on growth and operational efficiency. Her expertise spans financial operations, talent development, customer success, consistently delivering measurable results in fast-paced, ambiguous environments.

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